CreateSpace vs KDP Print

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Today's in-depth comparison of the two major print-on-demand platforms, CreateSpace vs KDP Print, is brought to you by the talented, well-connected (and sassy) Gundi Gabrielle, who is a bestselling author and a blogger of her global traveling adventures.

If you ever published a Kindle book on the most popular book publishing site Amazon, chances are you also created (or contemplated) a print version of your Kindle book and published via CreateSpace, Amazon’s print-on-demand (POD) platform.

In the summer of 2016, Amazon launched a 2nd POD platform – “KDP Print” – right in the KDP backend that most authors use to publish Kindle books.

At that time, only a limited number of authors were invited, but on February 15, 2017, KDP Print – still in Beta testing – was opened to the public.

Now suddenly, authors were scratching their heads trying to decide which platform to use, with KDP strongly promoting their new POD feature right within the author account.

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You probably noticed that whenever you publish a new Kindle book these days, a pop-up will appear right after you hit “Publish,” inviting you to add a print version.

If you are happy and familiar with CreateSpace, you have probably been wondering whether you should switch?

While KDP was quick to add a comparison chart for both platforms, a few important aspects were left out. Plus, KDP Print is still undergoing frequent updates – even during the writing of this article, which we'll work hard to keep up-to-date.

In addition, you can’t just switch back and forth at will. Once you move a book over to KDP, the move is permanent. It’s a one-way street.

So, in this article you will learn:

  • A point by point comparison of CreateSpace vs. KDP Print
  • Which POD is better
  • Current and upcoming changes
  • How one simple CreateSpace feature ruined the ranking of one of my books
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Why a 2nd POD Platform?

While Amazon tends to be rather tight-lipped about their plans and motives, what crystallized during several conversations I had with Amazon reps was that KDP Print had been created to more strongly entice authors to add print versions to their Kindle books. Something many had not bothered with before.

Having a POD option right within the KDP backend seemed to make the process of adding a print book a lot easier for authors, and it allowed Amazon to reach out to authors more directly than ever before.

If you use KDP for your Kindle books, then you have already seen the combined accounting interface. Obviously, that is an advantage, as is not having to manually connect the two versions on the Amazon sales page.

Beyond that though, is it really a good idea to switch at this point? Or does CreateSpace still offer many advantages over KDP that should delay such a move?

Let's have a look.

CreateSpace vs. KDP Print Comparison

We will start with the official comparison chart on KDP’s website and then dig a little deeper into features and differences not mentioned here:

International Distribution

From this chart, it seems distribution across international stores is identical, except that Japan is available only on KDP Print.

Notice any countries missing though…?

What about Canada and other countries worldwide?

Yes, what about our Canadian friends and readers? And our Oz and Kiwi readers, Asian readers, African readers…?

The problem with POD via CreateSpace has always been that ordering print books was only possible through Amazon.com and most of the European stores.

Canada was added to CreateSpace as late as 2015, but is still not part of KDP Print distribution. UPDATE: KDP Print has now included distribution to Canada. Hooray!

While KDP Print books can now be ordered through the Japanese store, which is a nice touch, no official answer was given though as to whether Japan has a local printing plant (which would greatly decrease shipping times and cost for customers in the region) or if the books are still shipped all the way from the US.

Amazon printing plants in Europe are a well-known fact, but when asked about Japan I was given “no comment.” Upon checking with several of my author friends in the region, it seems Amazon POD books are still being shipped from the US, so apparently no printing plant in the region just yet.

Also, there was no confirmation about the Australian store being added to either POD platform soon. The recent opening of Amazon fulfillment centers in both Australia and Japan though gives hope that eventually Amazon POD books will be added as well.

We shall see….

If worldwide distribution is important to you – or getting into (physical) bookstores – you might be better off adding a platform like Ingram Spark or Lightning Source. In that case, be sure to purchase your own ISBN to use across all platforms, so bestseller ranking doesn’t get diluted over several ISBNs. Authors have also reported that Amazon’s ranking algorithm seems to favor Amazon ISBNs, known as ASIN, over external ones if there are two or more options.

Show Me the Money!

One of the most important questions on every author’s mind is, of course, the financial aspect: Is there a difference in earnings and royalty calculation?

The short answer is: yes and no.

For the US store: Same royalty rate of 60% and same calculation of production/printing costs

For Europe: Same as US store except for books with fewer than 110 pages.

Let me show you:

Cost of Printing

These are the two charts that explain how each platform calculates production costs:

KDP Print

CreateSpace

 On both platforms, the production/printing cost is a combination of “fixed cost” and an “additional per page” charge.

Those costs are identical on both platforms for sales on Amazon.com. They are also identical for books with more than 110 pages sold on the European stores. For books with fewer than 110 pages, however, CreateSpace tends to have a slight advantage in Europe:

EXAMPLE A: 100 Page Book Sold on Amazon.co.uk

KDP Print: £1.70 fixed cost, no additional per page cost – TOTAL Production cost = £1.70

CreateSpace: £0.70 fixed cost + (£0.01 per page charge x 100 pages) = £1.70

=> exactly the same

With fewer than 100 pages, CreateSpace will cost slightly less than KDP, while books containing between 101-108 pages will cost slightly more on CreateSpace.

EXAMPLE B: 100 Page Book Sold on Amazon.de

KDP Print: €1,90 fixed cost, no additional per page cost – TOTAL Production cost: €1,90

CreateSpace: €0,60 fixed cost + (€0.012 per page charge x 100 pages) = €1,80

=> only at 108 pages is production cost the same. With fewer than 108 pages, CreateSpace pricing gets lower.

Royalty

Both platforms apply a 60% royalty rate for books sold through the Amazon stores. The calculation is based on the “List Price”.

CreateSpace clearly defines “list price” as the price set by the author.

On KDP, the definition isn’t quite as clear. List price is defined as the price the customer sees on the Amazon Sales page.

You probably noticed that the author price is often crossed out on the sales page, and Amazon instead sells the book at a different – usually lower – price. This price is whatever the algorithm deems the best converting price at any given time.

After some conflicting answers I received earlier this year, Amazon now confirmed that KDP will also base royalty calculations on the author’s set price, regardless of how much the book is actually selling for.

Bonus Tip!

In this context, here is a great hack I learned from Derek Doepker that doubled – and in some cases tripled – my print income:

Start with a list price that you feel most appropriate. Leave it for a few weeks and let the Amazon algorithm use it as a base to find the best converting price.

Then, once the sales price has stabilized, raise your list price. Oftentimes, Amazon will continue with the lower price in the range that you initially established, while you get paid royalties on the much higher list price.

So, if you set your list price at $22.99, and Amazon sells it for $18.99, your commission is based on the $22.99…which is nice 😉

Obviously, this should be done within reason and ethically, but even raising it by a few dollars per book can significantly raise your print income.

Accounting

The obvious advantage of KDP Print is the combined accounting interface where all sales and royalties – for both Kindle and Print versions – are presented together in the same chart.

Up until recently though, KDP's accounting backend was frustrating at times. Particularly disappointing was the fact that you could only access sales figures for the last 90 days.

Beyond that time frame, you had to download an Excel report – for each month separately! – and then have Excel add it all together. This was tedious, impractical, and frustrating for tax purposes.

While I was writing this very article, KDP rolled out a major update to its accounting interface, which now allows easy online access to sales numbers all the way back and monthly accounting at least until October 2016. Monthly periods before this still have to be exported to Excel.

This evened the score between the two platforms significantly, and clunky KDP accounting is no longer a reason to stay with CreateSpace – which doesn't have the most practical accounting backend either, but at least it allows for online access to your entire paperback accounting.

One major difference that remains is the payout schedule…

Payout Schedule

CreateSpace: 30 days vs. KDP: 60 days

Getting paid every 30 days is obviously better than 60, so at this point it becomes a question of preference between faster payout vs. combined accounting interface as far as the financial aspects are concerned.

Author Copies, Print Proofs, & Expanded Distribution

Looking further down the official comparison chart, there were three features missing on KDP Print, but two of these features were recently added:

  • Wholesale Author Copies = Authors can order copies of their books at production price **Available on KDP Print now**
  • Physical Print Proofs = If you'd like to see a physical proof of your book to make sure it meets your standards before publishing, this feature is currently only available at CreateSpace **Available on KDP Print now**
  • Expanded Distribution to other online and offline bookstores like Barnes & Noble, distributors like Ingram, as well as certified resellers (CreateSpace Direct), libraries, and academic institutions **still not available on KDP Print**

Turns out the rumor that KDP Print was going to add these features was true. We are still waiting for expanded distribution to bookstores and non-Amazon websites to be available, but the proof copies and wholesale author copies are now available for authors using the KDP Print platform.

Professional publishing services, such as cover design, editing, formatting, and marketing, are no longer available on CreateSpace at the moment. They discontinued it in 2018.  However, for most authors, this was probably the least important distinction as there are plenty of other platforms that provide these services.

One Major Difference That Can Affect Your Ranking

While many of the above features seem to favor CreateSpace over KDP Print – at least for the time being – there is one major difference that might outweigh them all:

Every time you upload an update, CreateSpace takes down your print/paperback version, which is an entirely separate entity from your Kindle book as far as ranking is concerned.

On the other hand, KDP – both print and Kindle – keep your old version up and available for purchase until the new version is approved.

Having your print version taken down can be a big deal when that version is selling well (e.g., when you are “riding the algorithm,” and Amazon naturally promotes your paperback book).

I experienced this firsthand with one of my travel books. Over several months, print sales were consistent and actually increasing, without extra promos needed.

Then I had to upload an update and the print version was taken down while the updates were in review. The paperback completely disappeared from the Amazon store for almost a full day. While that may not seem like much, it was enough to interrupt the great run this print book had enjoyed, and it reset the algorithm to some degree.

Yes, there are numerous factors that contribute to ranking and sales fluctuations, but the change was so sudden (and permanent) from one day to the next that there is no question of a correlation.

And once the damage is done, it's not easily repaired. This book still has decent sales and occasionally outranks Lonely Planet at #1, but there is no comparison to the way it was thriving before the update.

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Taking a book down during the review process is standard practice with CreateSpace, and there are no plans to change that procedure.

Since KDP keeps your old version available until the new one is approved, there is no interruption. The print version never disappears from the Amazon store, and your ranking is not affected or interrupted.

So if you have a well-converting paperback, switching to KDP Print will be the better option, certainly, once you need to update.

As I mentioned in the beginning, moving your print version over to KDP is irreversible. Once you switch, you cannot move back, at least not for that particular book.

Of course, you can always create a new print book in CreateSpace, link it with your Kindle book, and then delete the KDP Print version…but you cannot switch an existing paperback back and forth.

CreateSpace or KDP – What's it Gonna Be?

Looking at all the above factors, CreateSpace – for the moment at least – still presents a few more advantages, though they are slowly eroding as KDP Print keeps adding new features in the coming months.

For now, the pros for CreateSpace are:

  • 30 Day Payout
  • Distribution in Canada (now available on both)
  • Wholesale Author Copies (now available on both)
  • Expanded Distribution
  • Physical Print Proofs (now available on both)
  • Professional Publishing Services
  • Slightly lower production costs for Europe (for books of less than 110 pages)

KDP is quickly catching up with most of the above, however, and currently…

KDP's advantages are:

  • Combined Publishing and Accounting Platform for both Kindle and Print Versions
  • Easier to setup straight from your KDP platform
  • Distribution in Japan
  • Keeps Your Older Version Available during Updates

A lot of effort seems to be invested in making KDP a superior POD platform. Keep in mind that KDP's print feature has barely existed for a year and only been open to the public for the last few months – and it is still in beta testing.

Aside from the above-mentioned additions, it will be interesting to watch what other features KDP will add over time. For now, I will keep my books mostly in CreateSpace until the announced updates have been made, but over time – and also for future books – I will gradually move over to KDP Print.

How about you?  Also, if you want to look for other options, you can find a bunch right here for better print on demand companies out there.

About the Author

Gundi Gabrielle, aka SassyZenGirl, loves to explain complex matters in an easy to understand, fun way. As a Top 100 Business Author & Entrepreneur, she's helped hundreds of newbie authors reach #1, outranking the likes of Tim Ferris, John Grisham, Hal Elrod and Liz Gilbert.

When she is not writing books or enjoying a cat on her lap (or both), she is passionate about exploring the world as a Digital Nomad, one awesome adventure at a time.

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150 Comments

  1. Steve on October 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Just got my first book proof back from KDP. A few month`s after my last one was published through Createspace. Same format, similar cover style and typesetting style. Very comparable. Here is what I found: (a) KDP places a big ugly “Not for Resale” bar across the front and back cover of proof copies. The proof cost me more than the book would retail for. Not sure of the logic there. I’m going to recoup the cost of the proof by selling that copy? Really? (b) The cover is crooked, 2 mm askew from top to bottom. (c) The paper on the interior is a lighter weight and noticeably more grey in color. The print is less refined, seems like lower quality ink and less of it. (I used the identical font for the text.) (d) The interior layout is completely askew. It is outrageous. A half centimeter difference in the margin from the top to the bottom. This is throughout. At least It is consistently bad instead of randomly bad like happened to me with Blurb when I tried to print trade books with them. (e) The ISBN field is primitive and askew and a different dimension than the old one so that my calculated space allowance for it on the back was completely off. Obviously I’ll have to place it myself instead of relying on them to do it as I did with Createspace.Overall, very diminished quality of execution. I cannot find a place to get anyone on the phone. Does anyone know the number to customer service? Createspace was fantastic about that. cannot even find anywhere to contact their customer service directly at all about the quality of the proof or about my concerns. Seems like KDP doesn’t care. Is that possible??? Got a notice yesterday that KDP is 86ing one of the best features of CreateSpace`s distribution offerings. I keep waiting for the costs to go down to reflect this reduction in quality and service. Doesn’t seem to have kicked in yet but I’m sure that they’ll go down by half to accurately reflect what authors are getting now as opposed to what CreateSpace offered. I’ll hold my breath. I’m sure it won’t be long.

    • Dave Chesson on October 12, 2018 at 5:01 pm

      Thanks for sharing your experience Steve. It will be interesting to see how this change plays out. Hopefully they will improve the quality or at least reduce the price.

  2. Bodo Malo on September 1, 2018 at 9:21 am

    createspace is closing…
    better install a WARNING on the TOP of this page now. People read for an hour and then sign up with createspace, finding out it is closing in 5-6 weeks and they are transfered to KDPBTW: where do you see that report “KDP rolled out a major update to its accounting interface, which now allows easy online access to sales numbers all the way back “?I want to have SALES numbers for every individual book, a very simple report
    ISBN, titel, sales, earned money
    (all times back)this report is not available on KDP. It makes me crazy. Only the Prior-month report can be summed up, sales-by-sale
    KDP s….

  3. DNBon on August 13, 2018 at 12:05 am

    I have a typography book that uses “lorem ipsum” throughout the entire book, but the text guidelines say placeholder text will cause the book to be rejected. This happened to me. Do you know if there is a way around this? A help hotline to talk to someone that can make any kind of exception for a book?

    • Dave Chesson on August 13, 2018 at 9:54 am

      I do not…sorry.

  4. H.M. Friendly on July 29, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    For my first one I actually posted separately on both KDP and CS, since I could not figure out which to do. What do you think of that? This new one I’ve just put on CS since I find their proofs better (no damn obscuring “not for resale” watermark across the cover) but I’m trying to see if I should do KDP as well. not sure what the pros and cons are for having both.

    • Dave Chesson on July 30, 2018 at 11:21 am

      Having both KDP Print and CS?

      • H.M. Friendly on July 30, 2018 at 8:46 pm

        Yes

        • Dave Chesson on July 31, 2018 at 2:21 am

          You’ll probably just end up with multiple versions of yoru book floating on Amazon – but I do not know for sure since I’ve never done that personally.

  5. Steve Wilmot on July 28, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    Great article. Very informative for this son to be published writer of my first book. One question I’m confused about. Say I write a 200 page book. That makes my production cost 85c per book, right? Does that mean i can purchase author copies for 85c per book?

    • Dave Chesson on July 28, 2018 at 10:39 pm

      Hi Steve, pretty much – yes. It is about that. The key to the author copy is that it doesn’t cost them extra.

    • Deborah Carney on August 1, 2018 at 11:08 am

      Minimum cost per book is $2.15. Not sure where 85 cents came from.

  6. Karin Brauner on July 20, 2018 at 10:04 am

    Hi! Thanks for this! I was looking at exactly this! I used createspace for my kindle book version and realised that I did not really need it as I had to upload a different manuscript (word rather than pdf) to KDP and amend it until it looked good!The paperback is proving a bit more tricky to get around, but your article really helped! I am going to upload it via createspace and see how it does.I found an answer in kdp where you can transfer your createspace book over to kdp? Do you have any info on this. Is it straightforward to do this? (I think you answered this a bit above but It is such a lot to think about I’m getting muddled!)Thanks again for this article!

    • Dave Chesson on July 21, 2018 at 1:08 am

      Awesome and glad to have helped!

  7. Author DrDhillon on July 18, 2018 at 11:27 pm

    Any possibility that Amazon will faze out CS and move all POD to KDP.

    • Dave Chesson on July 21, 2018 at 1:09 am

      I do not think it will completely phase out CS, however it seems like they are working more to get self publishers to just use KDP Print.

  8. Author DrDhillon on July 18, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    Thanks for great info, Gundi. You helped me make up mind. I will stay with CS.

  9. Chase Peter Josef on July 15, 2018 at 4:14 pm

    I thought I would respond to this article and update that Createspace has recently removed and discontinued all of their services for authors, and so that should be noted for those it matters forThanks

    • Dave Chesson on July 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm

      Hi Chase, no they have not. You can still publish your book on Createspace. They discontinued the service of putting your book together for you, but not their print on demand service.

      • Chase Peter Josef on July 15, 2018 at 10:03 pm

        Yes their services for publishers/distributors are there, you are correct. Their Author services no longer exist as I said, as the services were discontinued.The point is you still say in the article that they exist when they do not, though you would want to update.”Professional publishing services, such as cover design, editing, formatting, and marketing, are only available on CreateSpace at the moment. No word yet on this addition to KDP Print. For most authors, however, this is probably the least important distinction as there are plenty of other services that provide these services.”

        • Dave Chesson on July 15, 2018 at 10:05 pm

          Thanks – I’ll update this guest post to reflect that.

  10. Deborah Robertson on June 29, 2018 at 4:14 pm

    I am writing a puzzle book and I am still doing research of how to get it out into the world. Puzzles are done now on to the next step. I am educating myself as the pros and cons are appearing. Thanks for this info it is a good article.

  11. David Kadavy on June 26, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Great article! You might want to update it now that KDP print is in Canada: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_U… I can even see Canadian royalties for paperbacks in my KDP dashboard.

    • Dave Chesson on June 28, 2018 at 12:31 am

      Hi David – if ever our paths cross, I’m buying you coffee or a beer (or the preferred whiskey). Thanks and I’ve updated the article to reflect that. Also, I saw your twitter post – rock on!

      • David Kadavy on June 28, 2018 at 4:19 pm

        Whiskey would definitely be my choice. Looking forward to it, and thanks 🙂

        • Dave Chesson on June 28, 2018 at 5:04 pm

          Done!

  12. Toby Nixon on May 19, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    I tried create space and I hated them. I have four years of graphic arts and h https://uploads.disquscdn.c… ave learned how to format … I mean I guess my lithographic printing certification helped. So I can fully flesh out the fiction nearly completely by myself.So I would not suggest createspace at all. Besides that, I love the way KDP is just as easy as putting some page numbers and headings on your manuscript after you format it for mobi.Nah, createspace is gonna go down. Cause Amazon is as popular as antidepressants.

  13. Bicyclette on May 9, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    Hi everyone,Great article, thank you 🙂 Yet I would like to add some great reflexion. I think this is wrong OR not entirely true saying “Slightly lower production costs for Europe (for books of less than 110 pages) on CreateSpace”. At least for Europeans authors. Let me explain :KDP is actually more expensive on print costs at all ranges. My book is 340 pages.Createspace : $0.85 + 340 x $0.0012 = $4.93 = €4,16
    KDP : €0.60 + 340 x € 0.0012 = €4,68So I have 0.50€ less with KDP for every book I sell. 1000 books = 500€ less. Hmm…Now there also is an issue with CS (CreateSpace) that very few people seem to be aware of. When we target European market (France forexample), we sometime need the books to ship to France. If I wanna buy some books at member`s price and market them myself, CS shipping will cost me hips!! Like… $62 for 40 books ! Better not have a $2 margin. And the price of shipping do not seem to go down as we order more copies.Here is the important part (for people like me, mainly Europeans). CS told me shipping is an issue, so they advice me to buy my books on amazon europe at listing price to get faster and lower shipping fee. Yes, but I pay amazon taxes (40%), whereas KDP seems to make us pay only printing + shipping when ordering at member`s price… So, That is a big deal too right ?Now, is there something wrong with my logic ? Question remains : KDP or CS ?Please comment and bring your lights 😀

    • Dave Chesson on May 10, 2018 at 10:54 am

      Thanks – I’ll take a look at that. Perhaps something has changes since I last wrote this.

      • Bicyclette on May 10, 2018 at 5:29 pm

        I am writing to createspace support at the moment, and I made a mistake when I said CS make us pay 40% taxes for member price. Yet they still advised me to buy on amazon europe to get cheaper shipping fees (but I’d still pay the 40% amazon taxes, which is not relevant in this case)

  14. Nick on April 19, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    I do not know if anyone else has mentioned this, but you cannot advertise a CreateSpace book on Amazon. There is no way to advertise a book that is not under your own account on AMS. So, the only way to advertise your book, is to promote your kindle book through KDP and hope that someone sees that It is also sold in Paperback, or move your book to KDP. I vote move your book to KDP. The bigger distribution network is nice and all, but let`s be honest with ourselves. Amazon is king!

    • Karin Brauner on July 20, 2018 at 10:05 am

      have you moved your book to kdp after publishing paperback with createspace? is it easy to do?

      • Nick on July 20, 2018 at 6:34 pm

        It is very straightforward actually. You can setup your book on KDP, request a copy to confirm the print quality and once you’re ready to go. You turn it on and your CreateSpace will automatically be turned off. KDP is the future in this market. CreateSpace was Amazon`s way of getting into the business, I believe eventually CreateSpace will be completely shut down to make room for Amazon KDP. Once you’re with KDP you can advertise just like any other product.

  15. Mike Lance on April 13, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    Beware of a recent Amazon change for CreateSpace books.A recent change has been made by Amazon when working with CreateSpace. Now when your book description is passed to Amazon from CreateSpace, Amazon ignores all carriage returns embedded in the text file. Although CreateSpace says “Plain Text is the preferrred format for your description”, that is no longer true, unless your description is a single paragraph. If it is a multiple line paragraph, Amazon will turn it into one paragraph.This is true for CreateSpace PODs (paperbacks) that have been on Amazon for years and the Carriage Returns had always worked as planned. Better check them out. All your pargraph breaks are now gone. The Kindle book description is still good, just the CreateSpace POD on Amazon is messed up.This is an Amazon change, not a CreateSpace change. Your carriage returns are all still OK on Barnes & Noble – so neither CS of Ingram are eliminating the Carriage Returns.You will now need to go back to your CreateSpace description and add
    HTML tags to your description so it appears correctly on Amazon. Making this change will not affect your text on Ingram or Baker & Taylor. They also accept the HTML tags.This is a sneaky little change. How many authors check both their EBook and paperback presentation on Amazon on a regular basis? If you check your book, Amazon defaults to the EBook version.

    • Dave Chesson on April 13, 2018 at 9:40 pm

      Great point – I’ll check that out.

    • Deborah Carney on August 1, 2018 at 11:11 am

      I actually change this in Author Central and NOT in CreateSpace. Adding the html caused some issues so updating the descriptions in Author Central made nicer descriptions.

  16. ekitty on April 10, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    I am about to republish my paperback on CreateSpace because the KDP paperback is apparently unavailable. I tweaked the cover several times because it came out too dark every time. The most recent cover has brought the system to its knees apparently. I first ordered the copy five weeks ago and every week get another email saying It is delayed for another week. The customer support is useless — lots of apologies and no explanation. If there is a problem at the printer, there is no recourse. Just lots of apologies and no explanation. They finally escalated it to “tech support” supposedly but that hasn’t changed the outcome — lots of apologies and no explanation. As far as I can tell, the book is not available in paperback from KDP. Only a few paperbacks were sold during this period so I do not know if those were delivered or not. There is no way to find out. I would not recommend KDP for paperback!

  17. ekitty on March 31, 2018 at 5:05 am

    I am having trouble getting an author copy of my KDP paperback. On the date it should have arrived in my mailbox, I received an update that it was delayed for a week. No explanation. Same happened again the following week. Another week went by and I got an email saying I could cancel if I wanted. That was unhelpful. Meanwhile, my complaints to customer support went nowhere. Lots of apologies and promises to investigate. Nothing. Finallly after nearly a month, I canceled the order. Tried again with a fresh order. If There is a repeat, I will delete the KDP book and re-do the paperback on CreateSpace. Very frustrating that there was no way to get beyond the front desk of useless customer support and their unhelpful platitudes.

    • Dave Chesson on April 2, 2018 at 1:06 am

      That is a bummer to hear. But yeah, Amazon support is not the most supportive. Keep me posted. Hopefully the second time works.

  18. Shirley Corder on March 13, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    Thank you so much for this clear post. I had heard the KDP regulations re author proof and copies had changed, but I needed to see it for myself. I am in the process of adapting four ebooks for print, so I’m going with KDP! I appreciate your help.

    • Dave Chesson on March 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      Absolutely and glad to help!

  19. WhoIsDaveGalt on March 5, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    would not that trick of raising your CreateSpace price over the Amazon discount backfire when CS holds your book off the market for a day while they review and “republish” it?

  20. Robert Lewis Auchey on February 15, 2018 at 5:37 am

    I used createspace to publish my fist batch of books but have recently switched over to KDP when I made a few updates to my cover! checkout my book “leave your demons” on amazon! It is a self help book for people with mental illness and it discusses the roots of humanism, philosophy, depression, causes of mental illness and how to cope!

  21. JD Lasica on February 6, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Worth noting that KDP Print continues to roll out changes. Wholesale Author Copies and Physical Print Proofs are now available at KDP Print, according to their site: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_U… … and now that they’re on a relatively even playing field, I may consider going with KDP Print for my first paperback.

  22. JD Lasica on February 6, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Worth noting that KDP Print continues to roll out changes. Wholesale Author Copies and Physical Print Proofs are now available at KDP Print, according to their site: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G201952960 … and now that they’re on a relatively even playing field, I may consider going with KDP Print for my first paperback.

  23. Karl on February 3, 2018 at 12:59 am

    Does KDP use the same method as CS to check your “digital” proof of the cover and body?

  24. Karl on February 3, 2018 at 12:59 am

    Does KDP use the same method as CS to check your “digital” proof of the cover and body?

  25. teflondog on January 18, 2018 at 6:43 am

    Is there any reason you do not put the date on your post? I’d like to know how relevant the info is.

    • Dave Chesson on January 18, 2018 at 11:49 am

      I keep these posts updated. I only write one article every two weeks. Sometimes It is a complete update of an article.

      • teflondog on January 20, 2018 at 12:16 am

        Thanks for your prompt reply. For better UX, it would be good to have an “updated date” at the top. Especially when a post is full of words and phrases like “coming soon”, “recently”, “a few months so far”, etc.Also, the Google result title this post as “CreateSpace vs KDP Print: One will save you time and money!”. It doesn’t really clearly make that point.

        • Dave Chesson on January 20, 2018 at 12:21 am

          Thanks – I’ll consider that.

  26. teflondog on January 18, 2018 at 6:43 am

    Is there any reason you don’t put the date on your post? I’ve no idea how relevant this info is.

    • Dave Chesson on January 18, 2018 at 11:49 am

      I keep these posts updated. I only write one article every two weeks. Sometimes it’s a complete update of an article.

      • teflondog on January 20, 2018 at 12:16 am

        Thanks for your prompt reply. For better UX, it would be good to have an “updated date” at the top. Especially when a post is full of words and phrases like “coming soon”, “recently”, “a few months so far”, etc.

        Also, the Google result title this post as “CreateSpace vs KDP Print: One will save you time and money!”. It doesn’t really clearly make that point.

        • Dave Chesson on January 20, 2018 at 12:21 am

          Thanks – I’ll consider that.

  27. Martine Lewis on October 16, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Since now you can order author copies through KDP, had anyone done so? Has anyone received damaged or substandard copies? If so, how did KDP handle the situation? I know Createspace is very good in replacing damaged or substandard copies. Is it the same with KDP?

    • Dave Chesson on October 16, 2017 at 10:10 pm

      As an author copy? Same process as Createspace. Also, just like Createspace, if someone buys a print version and it sucks, they have the ability to send it back another. However, and here is the kickers, that won’t stop the person from not leaving a 1 star review – TOTALLY sucks. it’s not our fault that the printer had a bleed or issue. However, to the reader its a poor sign of low quality.

  28. Marco Grishaber on October 12, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    That’s a great article, I was wondering a lot!
    Seems like KDP offers a better option in case you have several edits or even new editions of your book in order to not loose ranking while updating..!

    Question: It’s been a while since this post has been published, are there so far any further enhancements on KDP’s side?

    Thanks & cheers!

  29. Cerelia on October 3, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    This is a fantastic and very helpful article, thank you! As someone who is about to upload my first book into either CS or KDP, could you please explain this sentence:

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    My understanding is at the point where I have calculated what my base price is and then adjusted it to earn a royalty. Can you please tell me what you are referring to by the Amazon algorithm and what a converting price is?

    Thanks so much!!

  30. Harun German on October 1, 2017 at 8:40 am

    How published his in Japanese translated paperback book via KDP on Amazon.co.jp already?

    I experienced only ebook is possible to publish to Amazon.co.jp
    Am I right?

  31. Ken Bourne on August 20, 2017 at 5:10 am

    Hi Gundi, I am a Canadian author. I have 2 books on Create Space and have sold some in UK. Canada, and US but none have reached the $100 dollar mark for my royalty cheque. If I change to KDP will these royalties be passed over as well or do I lose them altogether. Also will my Canadian purchases still be able to buy my printed books on KDP.

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  33. Melissa Wardwell on July 24, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    Thank you for breaking it all down. I am a busy mom and sitting down to understand all the differences was something I did have much time for.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on August 11, 2017 at 8:46 am

      I know what you mean, Melissa…;-) – glad it helped!

  34. jedi4432 on July 16, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Hi Gundi, Thanks for the article. My friend and I are working on our first book. It is about job hunting/change in . . . . Japan. Since we are both bilingual English/Japanese speakers, we decided to write the book in English, have a more qualified friend write it in Japanese (our weaker language), and then try to get it published as a Kindle and print bilingual book on Amazon.co.jp.

    From what it seems, I’ll have to go KDP if I want the print copy to get to Japan. However, I’d like to have wholesale physical copies to give away/sell to people I meet. Would it be better to start on CS and sell just the Kindle version while hawking the paperback whenever I meet people? Or would it be better to have both ready on Day online, but not have any copies to hand out?

    Or should I wait it out for KDP to roll out all of these “not yet” services?

    Thanks in advance for your help (or anyone else who may jump in)!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on August 11, 2017 at 8:50 am

      wow – that’s a tricky one….;-) – I guess what you could do is: first publish on Createspace, order a larger number of wholesale print copies to hand out – and then quickly switch over to KDP, so the print version shows on the japanese store and can be bought there. Switching over is pretty easy and can be done from within your KDP interface. Once you are switched over you can’t go back – so I would order a larger wholesale number before you switch (and hopefully KDP will also add that feature soon) – hope that helps!

      • jedi4432 on August 12, 2017 at 5:46 pm

        Thanks so much for your advice! I think I’ll work it out that way.

  35. Carrie Hartunian Smith on July 5, 2017 at 6:50 am

    Wow – great stuff, thanks for laying this all out simply and easy to digest!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on August 11, 2017 at 8:50 am

      Thanks for the feedback – glad it was helpful…;-)

  36. Mateusz Bartoszewicz on June 30, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    Dave, it is another great piece of content. You are great inspiration for me. Even if I am not native english speaker, I believe I can achieve success in this business. I hope u will produce more stuff like that. I also started running a blog, currently it is simple and humble blog but I hope the content attracts some readers. Cheers mate

  37. SciFi_Fantasy Girl on June 29, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    Great article Gundi – thanks for breaking it down into pro’s and con’s. I wondered about the option for POD at the backend of KDP and why it was there when they had CreateSpace. Now I not only know, but understand the differences as well – thanks!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 6:06 pm

      my pleasure – glad it was helpful…;-)

  38. Mark Newman on June 29, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Really good insight, thank you. I don’t currently print any of my books, But I’ve been looking to add this feature. Having looked at the info in this article I think I’ll go with KDP POD.
    Thanks again,
    Mark

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm

      glad it was helpful, Mark.

  39. Kitty Bucholtz on June 29, 2017 at 8:31 am

    While I appreciate all the helpful information in this article, my hackles were raised when I read the Bonus Tip – how do you think it’s ethical to employ this “tip” at all? How do you suppose you would employ it “ethically”? To cheat a company out of a few more cents or dollars using a “hack” is not ethical in any sense of the word. And sadly, this is the second time such a tip has been suggested by Derek D. I called Amazon on another tip/hack he suggested in his newsletter, and the KDP representative assured me that it did, in fact, go against their Terms & Conditions. While I’m appreciative of the other information in this article – thank you! – I am sorely disappointed that Kindlepreneur has decided to support an unethical practice by including it in an article on their website.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:37 pm

      Hey Kitty – thanks for your feedback, but there is nothing unethical about it. Both Derek and I have asked Amazon about this, and they said it is absolutely fine. I even did before this article with one of the executives and I am also forwarding them this article – they are very aware of it – no one is being cheated here.

      You set your price and if the Amazon algorithm decides to use a different one, that’s up to them. Btw, they don’t always keep the low price, sometimes they follow the raise. And I also had the opposite happen when I lowered my price from $12.99 to $9.99 and Amazon kept selling the book at $12.47 which was a bit annoying. So I finally set it back to the old price.

      There is nothing unethical here and Amazon is fully aware of this feature and ok with it. Sometimes it can work for you and sometimes it can work against you. We cannot control what price Amazon sells the book at – for better or worse – and the algorithm picks the price that it calculates will sell the most copies and makes Amazon the most money.

      Hope that helps.

    • Derek Doepker on July 7, 2017 at 9:33 pm

      I do agree the tactic has ethical considerations even if it’s technically allowed. In the proper context of where I shared this, I encouraged anyone considering it to take into account what’s ecological. That considering all three elements of what’s good for the author, good for the companies, and good for the readers. For this reason, even though I could have charged a price in which Amazon takes a loss, I chose to raise the list price only marginally to still ensure Amazon made a profit, and the list price was on par with list prices of other books of similar length.

      “Cheating a company” is actually what I was worried about. I didn’t want to use the technique purposefully (I discovered it by accident) until I first contacted CreateSpace to confirm they’re OK with it. Since they are, I don’t see how one could consider it cheating if they allow for its use. Even still, I feel there’s a responsibility to not use it to a point where they would no longer be gaining something from the transaction.

      The ethical concern is not the tactic itself since it’s acknowledged and allowed by the companies. It’s HOW it’s applied and to what degree. Thanks for bringing this up because I don’t want to see people “abuse” the system and cause issues.

  40. Lise Cartwright on June 29, 2017 at 12:46 am

    Hey Gundi, such a great article! Now I understand all the questions a few weeks ago 😉 You’ve sold me, I’m sticking with CS until KDP at least gets the author proof copy in play, without that, how on earth can you be sure the quality of your book?! Seems crazy to me. Thanks for sharing Derek’s tip too, just changed three of my book prices on CS and will see what happens over the next 30 days! It’s always great to increase profits where you can WITHOUT having to pay for it!!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:39 pm

      Hi Lise, great to hear from you!! – and I hope it works for you, too (it does most of the time)….cheers to beautiful NZ…;-)

  41. EJ Randolph on June 29, 2017 at 12:32 am

    Hi. I tried to use KDP print. I write with LibreOffice and then convert to Microsoft Word. Kdp would not split paragraphs so no page was full. I talked with the staff. Nothing worked. I went to CreateSpace. No problem. So, I printed the second with CreateSpace. Again, no problems. I sure hope Amazon continues CreateSpace.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      Interesting to hear, EJ – someone else mentioned similar, so it seems that at least for now, KDP Print staff is more competent than Createspace. They certainly try to help you, I have experienced that myself with a cover issue (CS). And it seems they will continue CS for the foreseeable future.

  42. Hannah Loviisa on June 28, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    What about barcodes? Will it hurt you to use Createspace free barcodes at all?

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      you mean ISBN? – I don’t think that would hurt? I have not seen a difference. Both are Amazon owned, so it should not make a difference. External ISBNs have been reported to get lesser treatment, but so far I have not noticed anything between CS or KDP

      • Hannah Loviisa on June 29, 2017 at 2:42 pm

        No I did mean barcode. I published a book on Createspace using their free ISBN and bar code and later I tried to switch to Ingram but they said it was not allowed because I used the free ISBN. I was wondering if there was downsides to using the free barcode too

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 2:59 pm

          well, the barcode is basically a scannable version of your ISBN, so is always tied to whatever ISBN you are using. What Ingram is referring to is something I mention in the article. If you get the free one, it is owned by CS (or KDP, or Ingram), which is fine if you want to save the money and have no intention of ever publishing the paperbook on a different POD platform. If you want to combine Amazon PODs with outside POD platforms, you need to buy your own ISBN at Bowker.com (US only), which you can then use everywhere.

          You can also have the same book published using different PODs with different ISBNs, but it will dilute your rankings as sales are spread over several ISBNs. Another thing, authors frequently mentioned (even under this article) is that ranking on Amazon seems to be better for Amazon owned ISBNs, or at least published through CS / KDP – that is something I have heard again and again.

  43. Margaret Skeel on June 28, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Hi Gundi. Great article! I am in Australia so out of the loop…sigh. i have 2 books published on kindle and a third ready to launch but no pods yet. I guess i have to stll go with Ingram Spark? Will i be able to switch later? Or can i go with 2 at once? Any help on this coundrum would be greatly appreciated.

    • Lise Cartwright on June 29, 2017 at 12:45 am

      Hey Margaret! I’m in New Zealand (but have lived in Australia, my hubby’s Australian!) and I print all of my books with CS. Ingram Spark is costly and the majority of my sales come from the US And European markets… if any of my readers are from Australia and New Zealand and they want a copy of my book in paperback, all they have to do is wait about 10 days or so and my book is available on Bookdepository.com and similar sites 🙂 It’s been a great workaround so far!

      • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 1:54 pm

        great advice, Lise – thanks for that! – you know that answer much better, of course…. I hope they will eventually have printing plants in Asia or Australia…

  44. Eric Z on June 28, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Awesome article Gundi!
    I feel the pain too when I need to update a CS book and it goes offline for 1 day – how lame!
    But I also find the CS cover creator/step to be much better than KDP’s. So I will be sticking with CreateSpace for now.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 2:19 pm

      I hear you – SO frustrating! – if it wasn’t for that, I would never consider switching to KDP, because I, too, like the CS process and interface much better – but with a well ranking book, it can be quite costly in lost royalties and I don’t ever want to go through that again. ….

  45. Kevin Crenshaw on June 28, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    What about keyword and category selection? At one point I heard that KDP gives you more control over keywords and categories. If so, wouldn’t that be a huge advantage for KDP?

    • Eric Z on June 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      I know you get 7 keywords for KDP print, and only 5 for CreateSpace.
      If you can measure that advantage? That’s a question for the Keyword master – DAVE!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 2:23 pm

      well – you still have your Kindle book which has access to all of that and is linked to the print version, regardless of platform. So people finding your title would not be affected, but you are right in that CS is more limited in that regard. 2 categories vs. 10 in KDP (though I will double check with CS whether you can add the other 8 via email as you do in KDP). As for keywords, most of that needs to be in the metadata (title, sub title, description and reviews) – I think Dave mentioned it in one of his articles, that the backend KWs are only relevant in the beginning, but not long term, and they are certainly not visible in search engines like Google.

      And again, given that both versions are linked, I don’t see that making much difference. I still have some CS print books rank higher than the corresponding Kindle in the main category – if that’s a topic where people prefer print (like travel). I have always found the meta data optimization much more relevant than backend keywords.

  46. Philip Gibson on June 28, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    For those of us who sell more paperback versions than Kindle versions, it would be great if the new system would allow paperback sales to be reflected in the best selling rankings.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      They are reflected, Philip – my print versions occasionally rank higher than the Kindle version. They are 2 separate entities when it comes to ranking. Or did you mean something else?

      • Philip Gibson on June 29, 2017 at 12:40 am

        Do you mean your KDP sprint sales show a ranking? My CreateSpace sales have no ranking displayed on my KDP dashboard or anywhere else. Am I missing something?

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 2:24 pm

          I don’t think either platform shows bestseller ranking. Only the Author Central page has that feature to my knowledge?

  47. Anita Rodgers on June 28, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    I think I’ll stick with CS for now. That old adage about putting all your eggs in one basket (even though CS is sort of in the same basket) seems to apply. Also, since KDP is still in beta there will likely be changes, glitches, and hiccups to get through. Maybe after all of that is sorted out.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      that’s kinda how I feel. I think eventually KDP will outperform CS, but we are not quite there yet – maybe in a few months or a year….

    • Eric Z on June 29, 2017 at 6:49 pm

      Totally agree. One of my books got blocked on KDP, so I made a print version on CS and boom! not blocked and making way more dough than kdp!

  48. brittmalka on June 28, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    Hey Sassy. I’m on your list. Nice to see you over here, and it’s a great article. I was under the impression that you could choose both a print book on KDP and CreateSpace. Is that wrong?

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      Hey Britt – great to see you here….;-) – not quite sure I understand the question? – CS is print only – KDP has both Kindle and print options. Was that what you were asking?

      • brittmalka on June 28, 2017 at 4:23 pm

        I thought you could choose to have print books both on KDP and CS. But my husband just said that he tried, and you can’t.

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 4:26 pm

          you mean 2 print versions – one on each platform? at the same time?

          • brittmalka on June 28, 2017 at 5:40 pm

            Yes, that’s what I meant.



          • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 5:52 pm

            I’ve never tried – because they would be competing with each other? but if they have differetn ISBNs I’m not sure why it wouldn’t work.



  49. jacku on June 28, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    I can’t see it mentioned anywhere in the article, but do you think paperback sales would affect Kindle ranking? Maybe this is why KDP introduced a second service?

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:14 pm

      that’s an interesting point. I wouldn’t think so since they have different ASINs / ISBNs – and both versions usually rank completely independently, but who knows what’s going on in the secret tunnels of the Amazon algorithm….;-) – given that they both owned by Amazon though – and CS execs are very much involved with KDP Print development, I doubt it. But again, who knows….?

  50. Scott Allan on June 28, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    Thanks for a great article Gundi. It’s great to see the pros and cons laid out in such detail. Actually, I started moving my books over to KDP a couple months ago. The main reason I made this decision is because, I live in Japan. And, Createspace, unlike KDP, can only issue royalty payments by check. But in Japan, most banks are very “skittish” when it comes to checks from abroad, and I couldn’t find a single bank to cash it. One big downside to Createspace if you live in a region that Createspace is restricted to deposit funds via ET. So what I do, in the case of author copies is, publish first on CS, order a bunch of author copies at the cheap rate, then jump over to KDP with the book. KDP says they have plans for expanded distribution but they couldn’t confirm when that would be.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      Hey, Scott – nice to see you here…;-) – and that’s interesting to hear. Since the Japanese store offers KDP Print books, it would make sense that they would also pay you there. And checks must indeed be a pain……
      Another option could be to keep a US bank account and use it mostly via online banking and credit cards, but I can see the issue…..
      And yes – Amazon confirmed to me that those changes are “imminent” – whatever that means. I think over time, KDP Print will outperform CS – but for now, we are not quite there yet. Except in special cases like yours. – thanks for the feedback!

  51. Nick Gregan on June 28, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Hi Gundi, thanks for a really useful article. I’m just about to publish my first book and need to be able to POD for the US market. Am I right in thinking that Creatspace is the best platform for this? Many thanks, Nick

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      Hi Nick – congrats on your first book, that’s exciting! – as for “the best” – there are pros and cons for each, but for most points so far, CS is still the more robust choice. And you can always switch over at any time. Some of the major differences, like author copies, expanded distribution etc. are supposed to be added soon, but until they are, it would seem CS is the better option. But again, that’s just my opinion, and each case is a little different. The thing to consider is: you can’t switch back from KDP Print to CS – but you can go from CS to KDP Print….

      • Nick Gregan on June 30, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        Hey Gundi, thanks so much for your reply, I think I’m going to go down the CS route and flip over to KDP when the services are active. The main reason is the author copies – I plan to send out quite a few as gifts to prospective clients and it helps with keeping costs down. many thanks, Nick

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 30, 2017 at 4:02 pm

          it sure does…;-)

  52. Olesya Kalinina on June 28, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    Thank you for the nice article, Dave.
    There is one more CS benefit that I didn’t see mentioned. You may give coupons for CS versions of your book (unlike in KDP). In fact, your customers should buy discounted book through CS website directly. It mostly works for your own audience that knows you well, since most of random people have not idea what CS is. 🙂

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:01 pm

      Thanks for sharing that, Olesya! – those coupons would be through the CS store though, not Amazon, right? – I usually prefer to send people to Amazon, so every sale counts towards ranking there, but for coupons, it seems like a nice idea.

      • Olesya Kalinina on July 3, 2017 at 4:32 pm

        You are absolutely right. 🙂

        • Tam Francis: The Girl in the J on July 3, 2017 at 4:42 pm

          Could they word for say a library? Our local library is great about stocking local author books.

          • Olesya Kalinina on July 8, 2017 at 7:15 pm

            I can imagine this may help for the library audience as well. I am not sure how the modern libraries work in the USA, and are they popular or not. I live in Ukraine most of the time. Libraries are no longer popular here as they used to be. I wish you good luck. I think if someone becomes famous on the local level in the USA, this may help boosting overall sales as well. That’s a great starter option for the U.S. authors! 🙂



    • Tam Francis: The Girl in the J on June 29, 2017 at 3:18 pm

      Where is this coupon feature that you speak of? I have several createspace books and didn’t notice this. Please elaborate. This sounds cool!

  53. Greg Reed on June 28, 2017 at 11:57 am

    I’m with you. I’ll stick with CS for now

  54. Elena Ivanova Smith on June 28, 2017 at 10:54 am

    And how about quality of printing? I heard some authors complaining about KDP quality in comparison to CS but not sure how objective it is.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      I have not had that experience personally – both had the same quality – and they are supposedly using the same printing plants for both – IF they are purchased through Amazon. That’s why I didn’t mention it here. So unless a customer orders directly through CS, there shouldn’t be a difference according to them. It could also be different probably depending on region. The US printing plants might have different quality compared to European plants.

  55. Smokemare on June 28, 2017 at 10:42 am

    I actually used Ingram Spark to make my paperbacks. However it really doesn’t seem to pay dividends. I never succeeded in getting my books stocked and receive a tiny royalty on anything I sell. Should I pause my Ingram Spark/Lightning Source titles and put out KDP Print or Createspace? Or should I allow multiple POD versions with different ISBN numbers? I really don’t know what to do. I have decent following, and I’m sure I COULD sell more paperback books but I don’t think Ingram is the way to do it.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      I would not use separate ISBNs as it dilutes your overall ranking. I have heard from other authors that Amazon’s algorithm gives preference to their own POD platforms, but I can’t imagine it would be a dramatic difference. To test it you could leave your Ingram Spark as is and just publish another version on KDP or Createspace. If you own your own ISBN use that – otherwise, you can get a free one from either platform. That way, you will know whether it makes a difference – without having spent any money.

      • Smokemare on June 28, 2017 at 2:53 pm

        So pause the Ingram ones, make sure the ISBN data is a match and assign the old ISBN to the Createspace or KDP Print one? Which do you think is best to try in my circumstances?

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 3:03 pm

          you don’t need to pause Ingram – you can use the same ISBN over multiple platforms IF it is your own ISBN (e.g., if you purchased it). If it’s owned by Ingram, then you can only use it there. and can get a free one from CS or KDP. The free ones would also be owned by them and can only be used on their platform. I would keep the Ingram as is and publish an additional version on either CS of KDP and see if that makes a difference in sales. Give it a few weeks – and then you will know whether the platform makes a difference – hope that helps?

          • Smokemare on June 29, 2017 at 11:13 am

            Ahh, so as long as I match the trim size and page count to the Ingram version I can put out a KDP or Createspace version with an identical ISBN? I’ll be honest I think I’d prefer to keep it KDP Print, but those things you lose against Createspace are a bit of an off-put. I like to review a physical copy before I publish. However whether it’s worth it given I can order author copies at cost from Ingram? It’d be nice to keep more accounting in the KDP Interface and I suspect it’d be good for rankings and maybe encourage Amazon to promote my paperbacks a bit more. They seemed to like them better when they were Createspace before I moved to Ingram. I really wanted to get some shops stocking my books, but it’s never proved possible. I suspect the first book being free as an ebook has always hindered this. What do you think? Do you think that would put bookshops off?



  56. Elena Ivanova Smith on June 28, 2017 at 10:13 am

    So both are ran by amazon… So why all this mess then?

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 10:16 am

      yes, Elena, they are both run by Amazon and it isn’t entirely clear, why….. – but one obvious reason is having everything one accounting platform under the KDP banner. Beyond that, I wasn’t given a clear answer. Amazon denied that Createspace was phased out long term, but we’ll have to see. They also removed mp3 a while back from Createspace, so again, remains to be seen

  57. Andrew Chapman on June 28, 2017 at 7:04 am

    I have just set up another Kindle ebook and amusingly the email sent to confirm it is now live recommended creating a paperback… with Createspace. Amason seems to be confusing itself even.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 10:13 am

      Really? – that is amazing! – I always get invited to KDP Print. Maybe they are mixing it up a little…;-)

      • Andrew Chapman on June 28, 2017 at 11:56 am

        Yes, a bit of a surprise! Ironically it was a title that I had originally put up at Createspace anyway and then did a Kindle version.

  58. Val on June 28, 2017 at 6:31 am

    I had an issue loafing a 6×9 cover for a print book on KDP. My graphic designer nearly pulled his hsir out. Published beautifully on CreateSpace without any hassles. Staying with CS for now.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 10:17 am

      that’s interesting to hear, because usually Createspace seems to be a lot more critical and hand review everything (and refuse any file that doesn’t meet their requirements) – thanks for that info, Val

      • Elena Ivanova Smith on June 29, 2017 at 1:35 pm

        I wish I would have seen Val´s comment before. I decided to upload several books through KDP and it was a complete nightmare in terms of book covers (which were all fine on CS) also for 6×9. We failed to do it for last 3 days with my designer and he is super experienced specialist. After all I launched the KDP cover creator and will probably be able to work it out from there. So disappointed.

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm

          thanks for sharing that, Elena – and so sorry to hear that. Someone else here also mentioned interior files having issues. That’s definitely important feedback and we might add that to the article. You can probably just delete the title (print version) and then publish via CS, rather than going through this nightmare.

  59. Tam Francis: The Girl in the J on June 27, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    Hi Gundi, nice article. I remember you from your house (ranch)-sitting in Texas. Looks like things are going well. Thanks for the swell info!

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 10:18 am

      I remember you, too, Tammy!! – so nice to “see” you again here….;-) – hope your books are going well?

      • Tam Francis: The Girl in the J on June 28, 2017 at 12:55 pm

        Moving along. I’m trying Dave’s advice and going to try an AMS ad. We’ll see how that goes. Plus, I will have a new release this month. This time a time-travel, murder mystery, paranormal romance! How ’bout you? Good? Still traveling?

        And on the subject of CS vs KDP, I’m sticking with CS for now. I’ve not had any trouble and really like getting paper copy proofs. Plus, I actually have a lot of readers in Canada and Australia!

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:10 pm

          yes – still travelling…;-) – currently in Spain for a few months and publishing more travel books over the summer. As for CS, I agree, until they have made those updates, incl. Canada – I wouldn’t move.

  60. Jon Galt on June 27, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    Very interesting article. One other consideration is CS and KDP are seperate entities and the ‘diversification’ of using two platforms maybe a consideration.

    Long story, but KDP decided my ebook was a copyright violation (after 2 years of being published.. but a whole other story) and decided to block the book. Because CS is a separate entity and did not have problem with it, I have at least salvaged the paperback book. If I have both books in KDP, the ebook and paperback would both be blocked.

    • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 10:21 am

      That’s an interesting point, Jon – and so sorry to hear that. Did you take up your case with a supervisor? that often helps.
      Inititally, I had thought of keeping 2 platforms for that very reason – diversification. But an Amazon exec I talked to said that that’s really not the case since both are owned by Amazon and largely even share the same staff, but with issues like this, it might make a difference.
      Have you tried creating a new Kindle version and simply uploading it again and connect with your paperback?

      • Jon Galt on June 28, 2017 at 12:40 pm

        Thanks Gundi.. I battled for about a month.. emails & phone calls to anyone. I couldn’t get a straight answer from anyone.. just the same emails copied and pasted until they just decided to irreversibly blocked it.

        A stern email suggested not reupload it.. my KDP account is worth more than the one book 🙂

        It was a blessing in disguise.. meant I could trial my book on D2D instead 🙂

        • Gundi Gabrielle on June 28, 2017 at 2:11 pm

          oh – that’s frustrating – but if it worked out in the end all the be better…

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